Comments on: Team Foundation Server 2010 now comes free with your MSDN subscription http://www.dalsoft.co.uk/blog/index.php/2009/11/09/team-foundation-server-2010-now-comes-free-with-your-msdn-subscription/ Dalsoft's Blog Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:41:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: DalSoft http://www.dalsoft.co.uk/blog/index.php/2009/11/09/team-foundation-server-2010-now-comes-free-with-your-msdn-subscription/comment-page-1/#comment-287 DalSoft Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:37:48 +0000 http://www.dalsoft.co.uk/blog/?p=460#comment-287 Exactly! Your not alone, the decisions are usually made by people who start a meeting with - "I'm not technical". However, we (developers) are in a better position now as TFS is now free with VS 2010 and more companies are using open source tools. In my country (UK) if I do a <a href="http://www.jobserve.co.uk" rel="nofollow">job search</a> I now get lots of hits for NUnit, NHibernate etc experience which is encouraging. Exactly! Your not alone, the decisions are usually made by people who start a meeting with – “I’m not technical”. However, we (developers) are in a better position now as TFS is now free with VS 2010 and more companies are using open source tools.

In my country (UK) if I do a job search I now get lots of hits for NUnit, NHibernate etc experience which is encouraging.

]]> By: Doug Rathbone http://www.dalsoft.co.uk/blog/index.php/2009/11/09/team-foundation-server-2010-now-comes-free-with-your-msdn-subscription/comment-page-1/#comment-273 Doug Rathbone Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:59:18 +0000 http://www.dalsoft.co.uk/blog/?p=460#comment-273 I am with Dalsoft on this one My work is still stuck in VSS land - so this is _really_ exciting so everyone at work. Whether people should, could or have moved to open source, some companies business decisions are not made by developers. I am with Dalsoft on this one

My work is still stuck in VSS land – so this is _really_ exciting so everyone at work.

Whether people should, could or have moved to open source, some companies business decisions are not made by developers.

]]> By: DalSoft http://www.dalsoft.co.uk/blog/index.php/2009/11/09/team-foundation-server-2010-now-comes-free-with-your-msdn-subscription/comment-page-1/#comment-261 DalSoft Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:25:10 +0000 http://www.dalsoft.co.uk/blog/?p=460#comment-261 Not sure if my nether regions are ignorant :) I've used TFS (forced to by square corporate IT policy) and it's OK for those line of business developers that work in a corporate IT department. But TFS's <a href="http://martinfowler.com/articles/continuousIntegration.html" rel="nofollow">continuous integration</a> isn't frictionless for larger projects, where you are working with remote teams across the internet and using a range of platform's (it's near impossible to use TFS on a non Microsoft platform). All that aside that wasn't the point to the post, I was merely saying that the TFS toolset would of got more traction with developers, if it wasn't so expensive or had come free with Visual Studio. Paying a premium for MSUnit and SourceSafe when the open source tools were doing a better job, meant a lot of developers choose open source. Now TFS is free with Visual Studio, is it so much better that developers will come back? My opinion is NO they won't, hey lets see if I'm right, an easy measurement is to look at jobs adverts on the market that the mention open source tools vs. TFS. If you have evidence that I'm wrong please post it here. DalSoft Not sure if my nether regions are ignorant :) I’ve used TFS (forced to by square corporate IT policy) and it’s OK for those line of business developers that work in a corporate IT department.

But TFS’s continuous integration isn’t frictionless for larger projects, where you are working with remote teams across the internet and using a range of platform’s (it’s near impossible to use TFS on a non Microsoft platform).

All that aside that wasn’t the point to the post, I was merely saying that the TFS toolset would of got more traction with developers, if it wasn’t so expensive or had come free with Visual Studio. Paying a premium for MSUnit and SourceSafe when the open source tools were doing a better job, meant a lot of developers choose open source.

Now TFS is free with Visual Studio, is it so much better that developers will come back? My opinion is NO they won’t, hey lets see if I’m right, an easy measurement is to look at jobs adverts on the market that the mention open source tools vs. TFS. If you have evidence that I’m wrong please post it here.

DalSoft

]]> By: ahmed http://www.dalsoft.co.uk/blog/index.php/2009/11/09/team-foundation-server-2010-now-comes-free-with-your-msdn-subscription/comment-page-1/#comment-260 ahmed Sat, 24 Apr 2010 04:03:06 +0000 http://www.dalsoft.co.uk/blog/?p=460#comment-260 You guys are speaking from your ignorant nether regions. I have used several different version control systems, including both commercial and open source ones. I can tell you without reservation that TFS is far superior to any of those, especially the open source ones, SubVersion included. TFS is the future. Get used to it. You guys are speaking from your ignorant nether regions. I have used several different version control systems, including both commercial and open source ones. I can tell you without reservation that TFS is far superior to any of those, especially the open source ones, SubVersion included. TFS is the future. Get used to it.

]]> By: DalSoft http://www.dalsoft.co.uk/blog/index.php/2009/11/09/team-foundation-server-2010-now-comes-free-with-your-msdn-subscription/comment-page-1/#comment-153 DalSoft Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:38:20 +0000 http://www.dalsoft.co.uk/blog/?p=460#comment-153 I agree, I think those that never (or couldn't - square corporate policy) switched to open source to fix the gap, will switch to TFS 2010. But I can't see a reason for those that now use Open source. Especially when TFS 2010 still isn't what we call zero friction. I agree, I think those that never (or couldn’t – square corporate policy) switched to open source to fix the gap, will switch to TFS 2010. But I can’t see a reason for those that now use Open source. Especially when TFS 2010 still isn’t what we call zero friction.

]]> By: Stimul8d http://www.dalsoft.co.uk/blog/index.php/2009/11/09/team-foundation-server-2010-now-comes-free-with-your-msdn-subscription/comment-page-1/#comment-143 Stimul8d Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:17:49 +0000 http://www.dalsoft.co.uk/blog/?p=460#comment-143 No one uses TFVS because team system has always been too expensive. Maybe now they will,...lot's of people are still stuck on VSS you know! No one uses TFVS because team system has always been too expensive. Maybe now they will,…lot’s of people are still stuck on VSS you know!

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